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Pleasa

#NerfMisterChief
any suggestion for a secondary for takeda. I think I should learn a new character because now, when I versus a good player, basically I'm free.
I understand your sentiment... Seems like the players I get matched up with now are all uphill battles for me and Takeda... Any of the following match ups are not in my favor (in my personal experience):

Lui Kang
Kung Jin
Raiden
Jax

Possibly others but these stand out in my mind the most...
 

GrimJack

Rock paper scissor specialist
I understand your sentiment... Seems like the players I get matched up with now are all uphill battles for me and Takeda... Any of the following match ups are not in my favor (in my personal experience):

Lui Kang
Kung Jin
Raiden
Jax

Possibly others but these stand out in my mind the most...
i think you haven't taste Kano's b1 in the corner :16Bit:DOGE
 

Pleasa

#NerfMisterChief
i think you haven't taste Kano's b1 in the corner :16Bit:DOGE
Absolutely right lol... I have little experience playing any Kano online let alone an exceptional player using him lol.. (good luck I suppose? lol) :D

But I'm sure like most matchups with Takeda, it's a struggle either way! :rolleyes:
 

GrimJack

Rock paper scissor specialist
Absolutely right lol... I have little experience playing any Kano online let alone an exceptional player using him lol.. (good luck I suppose? lol) :D

But I'm sure like most matchups with Takeda, it's a struggle either way! :rolleyes:
i think i'll move to Cassie just because I like her alternative outfit :rolleyes: still keeping Mr.Takahashi junior while waiting for some miracles:coffee:
 
patch notes

• Takeda – Slightly decreased the combo damage scaling on Fist Whirlwind & Whip Flurry.

• Takeda – Can now do his X-Ray with the Block + Front Kick + Back Kick shortcut on an arcade stick while jumping straight up.

• Takeda (Ronin) – When special cancelling into Blade Drop it will always fall the same distance regardless of Takeda’s facing.
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
This makes attempting to learn the other two variations slightly more viable. We still have shitty wake ups and slowbro pokes though so I don't predict him moving anywhere on tier lists. :/
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Actually just tried messing around with starting combos with fist flurry and got 52% 3 bars first try. Might be a viable combo starter now.
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Ok so BNB combo in shirai ryu: 44 xx EXspear, b21 xxteleport, 33 spear = 41%
After this patch 44 xx EXfist flurry, b21 xxteleport, 33 spear = 42%

It's actually a better combo starter than spear now. That's interesting..
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Got it!! I'm blowing this forum up right now but 2 bars 49%! We're in there. Try jip, 44 exFF, jik air teleport, f21 exspear, b21 teleport. It's 49% two bars. Keep playing guys the dream may be still alive!

Ok ending the combo with air spear ryu after the exspear gives 50% and better spacing.
 
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GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
1% more damage BnBs!!!

:DOGE
I mean.. Let's be honest we can't expect the good patches till the online scrubs start figuring out how to block Takeda. For now I think what we should focus on is did the online improvements make it easier to optimize damage. Idk about you guys but I've been nerfing my combos for online.. Instead of 24% meterless combos from f1 2+4, I've been stopping at 17/18%.. What I'm really concerned with is will I be able to execute my higher damage combos. I personally always though comboing off ex fist flurry was easier than ex spear into b21 online but I stayed away from that for damage reasons.. We'll give this a week and get back to complaining. lol!
 

SOLEdier

IHideBehindIceClones
At least Takeda got something good in this patch. Can finally get over 30% on BnBs in Lasher!

Prepatch B21, exBF2, nJP, BF2 was about 30-31% now it is about 35%.
 

protools27

Rebel without a scene
Any changes to takeda's frame data? It seems like a lot of characters got some undercover changes to there moves frames i.e Cassie's f34 was moved from 0 to -8, tho it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes?
 

LucaTheRipper

RULES OF NATURE!
Does anyone play or know some footsies with the Lasher variation? Think i'll start to train with this variation, looks good with mix ups but a very limited damage...
 
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GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Any changes to takeda's frame data? It seems like a lot of characters got some undercover changes to there moves frames i.e Cassie's f34 was moved from 0 to -8, tho it wasn't mentioned in the patch notes?
F3 is -2 on block.. I think I noticed that yesterday. Pretty sure when the game came out it was 0 on block which is why we all used it like crazy. Then came the frame data fixes and the subtracted a frame on all moves. Now it's miraculously -2. This is pretty impactful in a bad way in my opinion. Let me know if I'm just tripping though guys.

On another note someone said they feel like reflect in ronin got better. Might check that as well.. Now that they buffed damage in robin and fixed that stance glitch I may put work in him.
 

GuerillaTactix

#bufftakeda
Anybody else have trouble with Grandmaster Sub and Mileena?
Use SZs confidence in his ice clones to hurt him. Everyone starts with ice clone in the beginning of a match. Throw kunai at the start of a match and you'll show them you're not gunna respect that shit. Kunai breaks the clone and gives you the first hit. Keep that in mind. It's gold.

This someone might disagree with me on but slide online is safe against takeda. If not it's too close for comfort. Break that shit into parts. If you knock them down after a spear combo ended and you think they'll slide. Pause for a moment jump backwards over them as they slide under and punish with a jump in punch, 44 combo starter. If you block a slide mid screen it's sometimes safe to just backdash. If they notice you aren't punishing slide they'll throw it out often regardless of whether or now they feel unsafe because they know you have slow pokes. Backdashing prevents further poke pressure and puts you in range to blow up their other favorite option: ice clone. Remember what I told you about kunai. ;) that's a start in that my. As far as millenarian goes learn Kung Jin. Lol!
 

EMPEROR PRYCE

WAR SEASON "THE WEAK EXPOSED!"
Anybody else have trouble with Grandmaster Sub and Mileena?
Not at all. I feel grandmaster sub is as 5/5 as it gets. Keep the game full screen, trade ice clones w kunai and neutral duck ice balls. Never try to rush sub down tho, and take risks to get away from the corner.
 

jordan ewell

BlakBoywonder
I've been playing takeda for about a week and a half now maybe two. I'm my experience I would say that takeda actually has decent offense in both variations I've played( ronin and shirai ryu) you just have to be smart with it. Don't expect to do liu kang things with takeda. Every character in the game is viable so far. I would advise people to actually learn the complete character and not only a variation. Use your specialty variation initially (mine is ronin) and switch to what your needs are. Shirai ryu is good but lacks wake up and defense. Ronin is better for that I believe