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Tarlom

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Another meterless corner I figured out mostly on accident after reading this guide. It's 31%, so 1% less from the top two on the first post, but the timing is a lot less strict.

b2, 242, b12~slide
 
Runks

Runks

Noob
@Tom Brady so with barrier of frost, armor moves get passed this except for the armor given from Quan chi's portal... Don't know if it's a bug or not but if he is in the armor portal given by sorcerer and he attacks you while you barrier, he gets frozen.

Can't post the vid now. Have to go to work but yea.
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
Ice parry strategy showcase agaisnt over aggressive rushdown opponents. How you can use it when you get hard knockdown in a mid/corner and they continue to pressure you. Aswell as showing how this also works just as good in offense on expected counter attacks / wakeups etc.

 
Tom Brady

Tom Brady

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Runks said:
@Tom Brady so with barrier of frost, armor moves get passed this except for the armor given from Quan chi's portal... Don't know if it's a bug or not but if he is in the armor portal given by sorcerer and he attacks you while you barrier, he gets frozen.

Can't post the vid now. Have to go to work but yea.
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All armor moves besides X-Ray get frozen by the parry.
 
LinKueiLegend

LinKueiLegend

The true Grandmaster
Can,someone help me out. I'm trying to find the ideal way,to use the ice parry. I tend to use it incorrectly since I get punished more than freeze them lol.
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
LinKueiLegend said:
Can,someone help me out. I'm trying to find the ideal way,to use the ice parry. I tend to use it incorrectly since I get punished more than freeze them lol.
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I hope this will help you out to get the idea. I mostly use it on expected wakeup attacks and agaisnt over-aggressive opponents who use to run at me after they get hard knockout on me. Works like a charm on unaware people, but once they start respecting it they slow down. Also loving the pressure with Unbreakable - you put them in the corner/knock them out, then u expect their EX wakeups and just parry that shit for free freeze. Works just as good when u are cornered and parry them on their pressure just to get them in the corner themselves.
 
LinKueiLegend

LinKueiLegend

The true Grandmaster
Sharpyu said:
I hope this will help you out to get the idea. I mostly use it on expected wakeup attacks and agaisnt over-aggressive opponents who use to run at me after they get hard knockout on me. Works like a charm on unaware people, but once they start respecting it they slow down. Also loving the pressure with Unbreakable - you put them in the corner/knock them out, then u expect their EX wakeups and just parry that shit for free freeze. Works just as good when u are cornered and parry them on their pressure just to get them in the corner themselves.
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Thanks a ton man! Definitely need to play smarter with it.
 
OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
How's his meter building in this variation?

I ask because in theory, you would want to have EX Aura active for when you get punished.
 
SWonder916

SWonder916

When's DragonBall?
Sharpyu said:
I hope this will help you out to get the idea. I mostly use it on expected wakeup attacks and agaisnt over-aggressive opponents who use to run at me after they get hard knockout on me. Works like a charm on unaware people, but once they start respecting it they slow down. Also loving the pressure with Unbreakable - you put them in the corner/knock them out, then u expect their EX wakeups and just parry that shit for free freeze. Works just as good when u are cornered and parry them on their pressure just to get them in the corner themselves.
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Hmm..so Unbreakable is pretty much like the ability to turn ur self into an on-call clone? That honestly sounds almost as useful as Grandmaster seeing as how it's a little more sneaky. Not to mention can armor up to not take chip damage and the variation look is coolest right next to the arms on Cryomancer. I'll have to try this out I'm pretty interested. If the damage output is similar then why the hell aren't more people using this?
 
ManjoumeThunder

ManjoumeThunder

Just a mark
Not surprising but:

Quan Chi
Warlock
  • Sky Drop - air attack, unaffected by counter
  • Trance - goes right through counter
  • Skull - counter negates
  • Ground Burst - beats counter
  • Portal stab - beats counter
  • Portal grab - not sure if the counter negates per say or it just low profiles enough to cause grap to whiff
  • Portal scoop - counters
Note that you can counter throws.

The moves that he could not counter were predictable.
 
ManjoumeThunder

ManjoumeThunder

Just a mark
Grieverus said:
not sure if there are any better kombos that don't cost anything. but here is the one 36% I like to use.


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That's the most damage I've seen for Unbreakable Sub in the corner for no meter (the only way I can think of him doing more is enhance slide but that messes up positioning). How difficult is that one?
 
ShArp

ShArp

Dedicated Broly main
Grieverus said:
not sure if there are any better kombos that don't cost anything. but here is the one 36% I like to use.


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Thanks for the video man! Def gonna try out when Im back home. However I hate double B2 combo starters, in online it's hard to connect B2 after B2
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
I'm surprised you guys don't know the double B2 36% combo.
I posted it on the first page of this very thread week 1.
 
ZeZe

ZeZe

The smart stuff!
Yep, it has been around for a while. I don't know if it's only me, but sometimes the 242 part doesn't connect on last hit and everything falls apart after. It's far more safer with one b2 though.
 
PaletteSwap

PaletteSwap

Misanthropiate
I don't know exactly how bad the Grandmaster nerf affects Sub-Zero's game, but if it's significant, I sense a large migration over to Unbreakable.

I haven't been messing with GM much lately. Having more fun with Cryomancer ATM, but I'd like to delve into Unbreakable.

Question: what is the scaling like on an ice parry compared to ice blast? So far the only unappealing aspect of Unbreakable is the low damage, probably the lowest of the entire cast. But that parry fits my playstyle like a glove. I loved Smoke's Shake in MK9 and I'm generally drawn to counter characters. The fact that Sub's counter grants a free combo and not just a free knockdown seems too good to pass up.
 
Grieverus

Grieverus

Noob
oh ok I couldn't find any so I decided to upload a quick video of it. welp a good update on a later page nonetheless ;)
 
SWonder916

SWonder916

When's DragonBall?
PaletteSwap said:
I don't know exactly how bad the Grandmaster nerf affects Sub-Zero's game, but if it's significant, I sense a large migration over to Unbreakable.

I haven't been messing with GM much lately. Having more fun with Cryomancer ATM, but I'd like to delve into Unbreakable.

Question: what is the scaling like on an ice parry compared to ice blast? So far the only unappealing aspect of Unbreakable is the low damage, probably the lowest of the entire cast. But that parry fits my playstyle like a glove. I loved Smoke's Shake in MK9 and I'm generally drawn to counter characters. The fact that Sub's counter grants a free combo and not just a free knockdown seems too good to pass up.
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I was messing around with it last night. The damage is similar to Grandmaster just without the corner game, you're stuck to doing Sub's universal combos since he has no extra offensive utilities in this variation just defensive ones. So a majority of the time his bnb's will net 24-28% unless u do things like the double B2 combo in the corner but that's mostly it. Definitely won't touch 40% and I don't know if he can even do another mid 30% combo outside of the double B2
 
OutworldKeith

OutworldKeith

Noob
I like to use the Parry to blow up counter pokes/ strings.

The garbage part is you only net like 21% DAM, but it can deter your opponent from being aggressive in close quarters.

It can really open up meter building opportunities for Subz.
 
PaletteSwap

PaletteSwap

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SWonder916 said:
I was messing around with it last night. The damage is similar to Grandmaster just without the corner game, you're stuck to doing Sub's universal combos since he has no extra offensive utilities in this variation just defensive ones. So a majority of the time his bnb's will net 24-28% unless u do things like the double B2 combo in the corner but that's mostly it. Definitely won't touch 40% and I don't know if he can even do another mid 30% combo outside of the double B2
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Yeah, maybe b2, b2, b1, 2, enhanced ice blast, njp, f4, 2, slide would get around 35% but it's a lot of work and meter for the damage. He gets so many damage opportunities that I guess it adds up and it also makes breakers less efficient for the opponent.
 
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