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General/Other - Takeda Kano B1 abuse vs Takeda

bdizzle2700

gotta stay sharp!
Dang. As a cyber main I'm a lil sad. I don't use b1 too often cause it leads to doo doo damage. Its gets low profiled with d3s and d4s. Armored out of. If its that bad then maybe more push back. I already have trouble opening ppl up as it is. In a game where kj does more meterless dammy then I do with a bar and erron black with a meterless vortex and 50/50s for days. It would just suck to see anything too drastic happen. :/
 

Apex Kano

Kano Commando main MKX
Dang. As a cyber main I'm a lil sad. I don't use b1 too often cause it leads to doo doo damage. Its gets low profiled with d3s and d4s. Armored out of. If its that bad then maybe more push back. I already have trouble opening ppl up as it is. In a game where kj does more meterless dammy then I do with a bar and erron black with a meterless vortex and 50/50s for days. It would just suck to see anything too drastic happen. :/
Exactly! Kano has one fast normal and the world is caving in. Liu Kang can do fast normals also and no complains. Leave Kano alone, it's only week 3 people.
 

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
I dislike exceptions. No character should have to deal with block infinite combos. I suggest that b+1 be -4 on block. You still have the threat of the second hit, which is -1 on block. I hope NRS manages this change appropriately. I think I speak for everybody in the Kano community when I say that we do not condone or support block infinite combos but would like to see that b+1 remain a viable poking tool. I think -4 on block is a fair number.



First of all, I am the best Kano in the world right now. Even if your d+1 had 1 frame of start up, I would still destroy you.

Second of all, your main character in Injustice got in for free and did safe 50/50 mix ups that led to 50%+ combos. You boast about being "all about that rush down". Yet as soon as you encounter the first powerful offensive strategy, you have the audacity to create this thread and complain. You are no different than Sonic Fox who, after getting his ass kicked by Tom's Sub Zero, is whining about the ice clone because his "set play" has to actually be set up.

For your sake, I hope b+1 is nothing else other than -4 on block. If not, I am holding you personally responsible. Tonight, before you go to bed, pray to whatever deity you believe in that Takeda does not end up being a top tier character. Because if he does, you will have to deal with my video and my opinion. I will create a thread and blow that shit up until it reaches 1000+ posts. Mortal Kombat 9 Sheeva will make Takeda look like a top tier character.
Lol best Kano. I beg to differ
 

dribirut

BLAK FELOW
Again, I am not against nerfs if they are handled properly. The community does not want to see block infinite combos. Neither do I. But at the same time, b+1 should not be made -15 on block because Zyphox and his group of gamefaqs scrubs are crying about everything Kano does.
You realize that he has no 50/50 mixup.. -4 is too much and will render his b1pressure useless.. -2 at most and with same recovery. Already at -1 every character would be able to get out and even punish staggers.. See absolutely no point in making it -4
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
I dislike exceptions. No character should have to deal with block infinite combos. I suggest that b+1 be -4 on block. You still have the threat of the second hit, which is -1 on block. I hope NRS manages this change appropriately. I think I speak for everybody in the Kano community when I say that we do not condone or support block infinite combos but would like to see that b+1 remain a viable poking tool. I think -4 on block is a fair number.



First of all, I am the best Kano in the world right now. Even if your d+1 had 1 frame of start up, I would still destroy you.

Second of all, your main character in Injustice got in for free and did safe 50/50 mix ups that led to 50%+ combos. You boast about being "all about that rush down". Yet as soon as you encounter the first powerful offensive strategy, you have the audacity to create this thread and complain. You are no different than Sonic Fox who, after getting his ass kicked by Tom's Sub Zero, is whining about the ice clone because his "set play" has to actually be set up.

For your sake, I hope b+1 is nothing else other than -4 on block. If not, I am holding you personally responsible. Tonight, before you go to bed, pray to whatever deity you believe in that Takeda does not end up being a top tier character. Because if he does, you will have to deal with my video and my opinion. I will create a thread and blow that shit up until it reaches 1000+ posts. Mortal Kombat 9 Sheeva will make Takeda look like a top tier character.
lets get one thing straight here i never lobbied for a kano nerf, just a buff to takeda's defensive options up close.

NEXT when have i EVER claimed to EVER be "all about the rushdown"?? because i used flash? is this what it comes down now? we just make assumptions? yes i love rushdown but how am i all about that rushdown using takeda in this game?? i pick a character based on how he looks too me and how cool he is, i was a Liu Kang fanboy in MK9, Flash fan since birth and takeda was the coolest looking character for me in MKX. i do have the audacity to complain you know why, BECAUSE I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY BLOW UP. your trying to point out how i'm some hypocrite about this because used flash? here let me try this out ready?
*read the next paragraph in tom brady's voice*.
M2 muthufuckin Dave!! YOU sir have the biggest cojones replying to me like that. pointing out how i'm a hypocrite, BUT the only reason, and i mean ONLY reason you are even in here saying something is because you are using Kano in this game. GOD FORBID this was in MK9 and Freddy had no options against it like takeda does now, YOU WOULD HAVE CAUSED WORLD WAR 3 if You didn't have a poke or safe way to interrupt pressure like this!! you would be screaming in 3 different languages every night at the torment. and then you come in here all ready for your blow up like the next messiah, ready to preach the ways to the masses of kano players. i bet for a while you were even thinking this was a sort of reparation for the nerfing of low gun shots we guess what dave?
#B1isTheNextLowGunShots

I no longer care what happens to kano's b1. I hope it becomes the worst move in the game that it makes you forget how much you bitched about smoke in MK9. LOW GUN SHOTS AIN'T GOT NOTHING ON THIS!! i also now hope cyber kano is nerfed to oblivion and makes the zoning so bad, you would have tried to get your own amulet to go back in time to tell yourself NOT to be such a fool!!! *end tom brady voice*

Also i would like you take you up on that bet in the first line you addressed me in.

MM at Combo Breaker, Cyber Kano vs Shirai Ryu Takeda, Ft10 character lock, NAME THE TIME, NAME THE AMOUNT SON!!!!
 

THTB

Arez | Booya | Riu48 - Rest Easy, Friends
+2?

Well that explains why I couldn't poke out lmao. I thought it was just hard to time.

Yeah, it actually being -1 would be okay.

Also, whoever said it's a case of your character being bad, I play Reptile and I'm saying it's a really good tool (especially now that we know it's actually + on block).
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
There is literally no reason for takeda to get faster normals.
man i'm sick and tired of people like you coming in here and telling us takeda players what takeda may or may not need. once you learn how to play against takeda and see how easy it is, how punishable and - he is on everything then you can tell me that, otherwise you will be leaving a character with sub par mid range, punishable tools also be extremely slow up close. if i was kenshi from MK9 and i asked for this i would agree with you 100% but this game, every one has fast walk speeds, forward advancing armor, corner carry, fast run speeds and great set plat. GOD FORBID my character who is the slowest character to ever exist gets ONE poke fastest than 11 frames, GOD FOR FUCKING BID.
 

Zyphox

What is going on guys, Ya Boi Zyphox here.
This doesn't have to be nerfed. Just corrected to actually be 0 on block. Problem solved
thats what i've been saying, i played playtowin using this against me in a lot less laggier setting then we did and i was able to deal with it, but in certain situations i didnt have an option, like cornered after a breaker that lands takeda in the corner after i just used a bar? takeda has combos that side switch which i have to use throw to put them back in the the corner because that's the last place i want to be with him.
 

Mortal Komhat

Worst Well-Established Goro Player Ever
As an aside to the shitstain this thread is on the underpants that is TYM, I saw some dudes try out the b1 b1 b1 ~ vs. Quan and yeah - it's block or get hit, no other alternative. He can't do anything to get out (except armored run up wall but that's STAGE DEPENDENT and at that point you may as well say "well why don't you block breaker nub")

Takeda might, didn't see anyone try it.

From there, they'll decide how to address the situation either by improving corner escapes in the corner for those who cannot get out, or nerfing b1 a tad so that it's not as good. Ideally, it'd be safe but allow for escapes when locked down in the corner.

But you know, let's continue to collectively lose our shit while overstating our importance.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
lets get one thing straight here i never lobbied for a kano nerf, just a buff to takeda's defensive options up close.

NEXT when have i EVER claimed to EVER be "all about the rushdown"?? because i used flash? is this what it comes down now? we just make assumptions? yes i love rushdown but how am i all about that rushdown using takeda in this game?? i pick a character based on how he looks too me and how cool he is, i was a Liu Kang fanboy in MK9, Flash fan since birth and takeda was the coolest looking character for me in MKX. i do have the audacity to complain you know why, BECAUSE I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT YOUR SHITTY BLOW UP. your trying to point out how i'm some hypocrite about this because used flash? here let me try this out ready?
*read the next paragraph in tom brady's voice*.
M2 muthufuckin Dave!! YOU sir have the biggest cojones replying to me like that. pointing out how i'm a hypocrite, BUT the only reason, and i mean ONLY reason you are even in here saying something is because you are using Kano in this game. GOD FORBID this was in MK9 and Freddy had no options against it like takeda does now, YOU WOULD HAVE CAUSED WORLD WAR 3 if You didn't have a poke or safe way to interrupt pressure like this!! you would be screaming in 3 different languages every night at the torment. and then you come in here all ready for your blow up like the next messiah, ready to preach the ways to the masses of kano players. i bet for a while you were even thinking this was a sort of reparation for the nerfing of low gun shots we guess what dave?
#B1isTheNextLowGunShots

I no longer care what happens to kano's b1. I hope it becomes the worst move in the game that it makes you forget how much you bitched about smoke in MK9. LOW GUN SHOTS AIN'T GOT NOTHING ON THIS!! i also now hope cyber kano is nerfed to oblivion and makes the zoning so bad, you would have tried to get your own amulet to go back in time to tell yourself NOT to be such a fool!!! *end tom brady voice*

Also i would like you take you up on that bet in the first line you addressed me in.

MM at Combo Breaker, Cyber Kano vs Shirai Ryu Takeda, Ft10 character lock, NAME THE TIME, NAME THE AMOUNT SON!!!!
You think Takeda is cool? He literally goes, "grrrr!" between rounds when he loses.
 

EMPEROR PRYCE

WAR SEASON "THE WEAK EXPOSED!"
Shit sucks for takeda. It makes kano reeeeal tough, like to the point it's pretty much free no skill needed lol. Imagine if instant air zod ball was a regular input vs lex.
 
The way they made Kano is brainless and uninteresting but the oses might hurt him, or have him make a read( God forbid). A move can be stagger able and the gap widened. I also think summoner quan chi is horribly designed in terms of balance not intent, so don't logical fallacy about my own character black fellow. Quan shouldn't be so 1 sided to the point of stupidity at full screen nor should any char have safe/frame adv. vortexes. That's brainless and skilled, and overshadows goid play.

Let's give him one projectile, but literally make it op and stupid and hut mid to make his zoning good, rather than introducing lasers to make is zoning multidimensional and actually intesting, as opposed to one dimensional. Let's give him one normal. No normal should ever be 8f and neutral in a game with 7 frame negative pokes. Players think he needs to be johnny cage in his zoning variation when already has great footsies amazing mobility and zoning, that's fundamentally bad game design. ironically he has better offense than fisticuffs cage in his zoning/combo variation when he already has a grappler variation meant for offense.

B1 is already, a great antiair,
One if not the best counterpoking normal in the game which I guarantee you 70% of you retards aren't doing, counterpoking is back except against lk u scrubs.
Fast full combo punisher
Safe

But it also needs to force people into just framing out of pressure.


You guys are all imbeciles along with the character design in this game..

It took me 15 minutes to realize quan was dumb