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Question - Kotal Kahn Dealing with Zoners (Jacqui)

TylorJockin

TylorJockin

You don't impress me.
Anyone have an idea as to what The Kahn is suppose to do against Full Auto Jacqueline? This MU seems impossible lol I need some big time help
 
regulas

regulas

Your Emporer
Dash block... walk block... block run... I mean I know ranged spam can be anoying to deal with but it doesn't make it impossible just anoying.
 
redeyes

redeyes

Button Masher
Treadmill said:
Be prepared to not be helped at all. That's what tym is all about.

Neutral duck, block of its meter burned. Run after if it's not meter burned. Duck block quickly in case of the low launcher when you get close.

I have similar problems with Cassie.
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i found if u duck the reg and she EX's it for the rocket , a well timed jump will dodge the rocket and u can punish with j2 into combo, for cassie.
 
regulas

regulas

Your Emporer
Treadmill said:
Be prepared to not be helped at all. That's what tym is all about.

Neutral duck, block of its meter burned. Run after if it's not meter burned. Duck block quickly in case of the low launcher when you get close.

I have similar problems with Cassie.
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Also good advice would be to just watch rico/CDjr they tend to play Kotal/Jaqui against each other often enough.
 
Treadmill

Treadmill

Noob
redeyes said:
i found if u duck the reg and she EX's it for the rocket , a well timed jump will dodge the rocket and u can punish with j2 into combo, for cassie.
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Yeah. But full screen that's not going to connect. I'm just soaking in general about closing the gap. Getting jump happy is bad to because of her anti air blast to.

I played the shit out of this mu (cassie v. Jackie) against @Joker8417 And feel I got pretty good at getting in.
 
redeyes

redeyes

Button Masher
Treadmill said:
Yeah. But full screen that's not going to connect. I'm just soaking in general about closing the gap. Getting jump happy is bad to because of her anti air blast to.

I played the shit out of this mu (cassie v. Jackie) against @Joker8417 And feel I got pretty good at getting in.
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yeah i play dabs, its just thats one of the better ways to punish the ex one imo.
 
ENDeverMORE

ENDeverMORE

The incredible introvert
Its not mindless spam ffs! It's space control, they're claiming the space between you and them as their own... Unless you're fighting a button masher/scrub... Then it IS mindless spam, and they probably don't know why it works and when it doesn't work. Take it to practice..
 
Euphoric

Euphoric

MKX
You used run and ran into the fans like 6 times. I think your mentality is just go in and just start comboing. Not to mention the jumping.

Duck, and walk your way in. Let go of block to lower hit box.
 
Tony at Home

Tony at Home

Noob
I wouldn't duck and dash. Duck and walk. Dashing takes too long, and there is that dumb problem where it's easy to accidentally turn it into a run (NRS, please, dedicated run button!)

I honestly had a match that looked exactly like that. I was totally forgetting walkspeed was no longer like in Injustice.

Kotal's walkspeed is good enough to get in.
 
Chris4387

Chris4387

Noob
I noticed most projectiles hit high and they have lots of recovery frames and or startup frames for the most part. so you can just neutral duck then inch your way in. In that Kitana vid the opponent basically outplayed you. They conditioned you and frustrated you to the point that they got you to do exactly what they wanted, jump into the fans for possible combo conversions. My one nitpick with projectiles in this game is that projectiles do a shit ton of chip and don't trade with other projectiles (or at least that I know of).
 
Braindead

Braindead

I want Kronika to step on my face
Tony at Home said:
I wouldn't duck and dash. Duck and walk. Dashing takes too long, and there is that dumb problem where it's easy to accidentally turn it into a run (NRS, please, dedicated run button!)

I honestly had a match that looked exactly like that. I was totally forgetting walkspeed was no longer like in Injustice.

Kotal's walkspeed is good enough to get in.
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Nah bruh it's a 2-8 MU.
 
Tony at Home

Tony at Home

Noob
Apart from the click-baity title, people should give him the benefit of the doubt that he was just asking for help.

There's going to be ALOT of these threads with the games release, and it's just more productive to help people out than roll our eyes at them.

But yeah. Duck and walk. Duck and walk. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming. Just keep swimming.
 
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TotteryManx

TotteryManx

cr. HP Master
Fractured_Shadow said:
Holy fuck these threads are getting out of hand.
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I agree, but maybe they're new to fighting games, so maybe we can give tips so they stick around longer?

@TylorJockin Kotal is a character that can be zoned, but that doesn't mean a MU is 0-10. When dealing with zoning, patience is your friend. Walk, block, walk, crouch, crouch, dash, is your friend. However, his db1 has ridiculout range so you can cancel a run into it to punish zoning. Hit the lab and find ways to get around it. It's not easy.

P.S. Rico's Kotal is shaping up nicely and he streams, so maybe you can learn a thing or two from him. http://www.twitch.tv/imricosuave
 
xQUANTUMx

xQUANTUMx

Twitter: @xxQUANTUM
Treadmill said:
Be prepared to not be helped at all. That's what tym is all about.

Neutral duck, block of its meter burned. Run after if it's not meter burned. Duck block quickly in case of the low launcher when you get close.

I have similar problems with Cassie.
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D4/D3 the gun shots, block or armor the rockets. Why would you wanna give the bitch more meter? :cool:
 
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