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Northern Slasher

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lol this kid saying i have nothing against gays then goes on to hate get off that pedestal bruh. It must be so easy not being a minority you don't get to look at the world how it really is.
No "kid", I stated a fact that how they carry themselves in public. You know, like completely contradicting what they say with their actions. Read my post before you call me out.
 

zydrate101

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No "kid", I stated a fact that how they carry themselves in public. You know, like completely contradicting what they say with their actions. Read my post before you call me out.
they? do all straight people carry themselves the same way? how bout black people? what yo saying is ridiculous . This is the worst case of being homophobic. It's ok if their gay just don't mention it right? gay people should just hide and never talk about anything because it's shoving it down ya throat:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:.
 
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I mean, they go over the mommy-and-daddy-issues of Takeda ('absentee father'), Jacqui ('overprotective father'), and Cassie ('divorced parents').

Why would Kung Jin's sexuality be not worthy of at least the passing mention, if all the aforementioned cases were?

And those seemingly non-consequential issues of Takeda, Jacqui, and Cassie actually had a large role in their character development. But why wouldn't Kung Jin's as well?

We know he had a life as a thief, and we know this was partially because he was living as a vagrant in denial of his heritage, feeling that he would be unwelcome in the Shaolin. So, yeah. It's part of his character- being gay affected him as person, not because being gay makes you somehow different than everyone else in more ways than sexual preference, but because it changed how society interacted with him.

Not something NRS just slipped in there. Just like Takeda, Jacqui, and Cassie's issues, they are personal issues not related to the events of the plot directly, but they effect HOW each of the characters approached those events.
 

Northern Slasher

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Give some examples. :) How do we contradict wanting basic human Rights?
Holy shit. I don't know how I can make it any clear. The only issue I have with gay people (mainly Michael Sam) is the attention seeking. You're gay! Great! That's you're right, but to have it shoved in the publics face is annoying as hell when you say you don't want attention and want to be treated the same but you're actions dictate the complete opposite.
 
Why do people have strong opinions about other people's sexual orientation? If you personally get offended by someone else's decision on who they have sex with, your life must really be pathetic for you to be that insulted on something that doesn't even affect you.
 

zydrate101

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Holy shit. I don't know how I can make it any clear. The only issue I have with gay people (mainly Michael Sam) is the attention seeking. You're gay! Great! That's you're right, but to have it shoved in the publics face is annoying as hell when you say you don't want attention and want to be treated the same but you're actions dictate the complete opposite.
lol why because michael sam is a badass mofo and you can't handle a gay person being in such a heterosexual football world. Do you feel the same way when you see straight people showing love for who they care about?:DOGE:DOGE
 

Tim Static

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Holy shit. I don't know how I can make it any clear. The only issue I have with gay people (mainly Michael Sam) is the attention seeking. You're gay! Great! That's you're right, but to have it shoved in the publics face is annoying as hell when you say you don't want attention and want to be treated the same but you're actions dictate the complete opposite.
Do yourself a favor & ignore this thread. You obviously don't understand the context of this. It wasn't pushed in anyone's face so if you feel that way, then that says more about you than anything involving Kung Jin or MKX. This isn't a common thing in this genre, so get over it. I guess if you were a part of a minority who's basic civil rights have been shit on for decades, you might feel different/ But until you can comprehend that, stay away from posting in here. Hate to break it to people, but MK is a game that is made by all kinds of people, including gay, straight, white, black, Asian, European etc etc etc. Get over it.

Same goes to anyone who feels like this offends them, or doesn't like it. Don't post in here or anywhere else on TYM.
 

Northern Slasher

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Do yourself a favor & ignore this thread. You obviously don't understand the context of this. It wasn't pushed in anyone's face so if you feel that way, then that says more about you than anything involving Kung Jin or MKX. This isn't a common thing in this genre, so get over it. I guess if you were a part of a minority who's basic civil rights have been shit on for decades, you might feel different/ But until you can comprehend that, stay away from posting in here. Hate to break it to people, but MK is a game that is made by all kinds of people, including gay, straight, white, black, Asian, European etc etc etc. Get over it.

Same goes to anyone who feels like this offends them, or doesn't like it. Don't post in here or anywhere else on TYM.
/facepalm WOW. For starters, I will post my opinion if I fucking want to. Go ahead and ban me if you can't handle that. Second of all, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAYS! I'm simply stating my opinion on how I disagree with how they carry themselves when they openly admit their sexuality. Never did I say once that Kung Jin being gay was bad,wrong, or I hated it. Simply stated my opinion on this fad of praising everyone who is openly homosexual. And until you ban me from your high horse, I will openly discuss any topic I choose and further give my opinion on it.
 

Jeddite

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While there is no wrong way to introduce a gay character in a video game, I greatly prefer how they did it with Kung Jin, as opposed to Poison in Street Fighter, or Dorian in Dragon Age. It wasn't forced, it was subtle, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his identity.

I like it when characters are not, at all, defined by their sexual preference.
 
Gay people don't seek attention, it's the oppression of social groups that are othered in favor of dominant ones. This goes for anyone that has faced oppression by dominant groups, whites over minorities, disabled over enabled, so yeah...

If you've ever been in the group that has been under dominant groups of people in society, you'll realize you missed opportunities, so yeah, it's a big deal, gay or not.
 

zydrate101

XBL: zydrate101
While there is no wrong way to introduce a gay character in a video game, I greatly prefer how they did it with Kung Jin, as oppose
While there is no wrong way to introduce a gay character in a video game, I greatly prefer how they did it with Kung Jin, as opposed to Poison in Street Fighter, or Dorian in Dragon Age. It wasn't forced, it was subtle, and it has absolutely nothing to do with his identity.

I like it when characters are not, at all, defined by their sexual preference.
people aren't defined by their sexuality if it makes you uncomfortable thats a different story. Dorians was done perfectly you don't ever even have to find out about it.
 
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Northern Slasher

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people aren't defined by their sexuality if it makes you uncomfortable thats a different story. Dorians was done perfectly you don't ever even have to find out about it.
You really are a special kind of stupid aren't you. Where did he say it makes him uncomfortable? Or anything relatively close to that?
 

Tim Static

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/facepalm WOW. For starters, I will post my opinion if I fucking want to. Go ahead and ban me if you can't handle that. Second of all, I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST GAYS! I'm simply stating my opinion on how I disagree with how they carry themselves when they openly admit their sexuality. Never did I say once that Kung Jin being gay was bad,wrong, or I hated it. Simply stated my opinion on this fad of praising everyone who is openly homosexual. And until you ban me from your high horse, I will openly discuss any topic I choose and further give my opinion on it.
Why would i ban you cause i think your opinion is fucking ridiculous? That doesn't break any rules & that's not how we operate. But your opinion IS stupid. You still don't understand why this is important. Not once in the game does Jin jump around & scream "I'M GAY!!", so your complaint is stupid. What if all the characters were black, asian or anything but white? Don't even deny that white people would be pissed. Not all but a lot. One fucking gay character in a game like MK is HUGE for the big population of gay MK players (some of the best to ever play MK ever since MK1 are gay, FYI, and that's a fact.). So if you can't understand that, stay away from this discussion. No one is making you read this thread or the contents of it nor the article about it.

PS- but if you want to resort to name calling, I will infract you. There is no need for that. Again, stay out of the thread if you cant handle it.
 

Northern Slasher

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if someone wants sexuality to only ever be hinted at and never fully said than somethings going on there. I can see your rebuttal's always have to do with name calling because you really have nothing to add.
Just calling a spade a spade. Never once did he say it made him uncomfortable he just stated he liked the way they did it, but you seem great at putting words into peoples mouths and spinning words around. Good on you, you should be in politics.
 

zydrate101

XBL: zydrate101
Just calling a spade a spade. Never once did he say it made him uncomfortable he just stated he liked the way they did it, but you seem great at putting words into peoples mouths and spinning words around. Good on you, you should be in politics.
:coffee: like i stated in the post dorian's sexuality is only ever talked about through a side quest, It ain't forced.
 

Northern Slasher

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Why would i ban you cause i think your opinion is fucking ridiculous? That doesn't break any rules & that's not how we operate. But your opinion IS stupid. You still don't understand why this is important. Not once in the game does Jin jump around & scream "I'M GAY!!", so your complaint is stupid. What if all the characters were black, asian or anything but white? Don't even deny that white people would be pissed. Not all but a lot. One fucking gay character in a game like MK is HUGE for the big population of gay MK players (some of the best to ever play MK ever since MK1 are gay, FYI, and that's a fact.). So if you can't understand that, stay away from this discussion. No one is making you read this thread or the contents of it nor the article about it.

PS- but if you want to resort to name calling, I will infract you. There is no need for that. Again, stay out of the thread if you cant handle it.
Listen, my opinion was nothing to do with Kung Jin. My opinion was about gay celebrities/athletes/famous individuals. Again, (follow along) I stated I just do not care for the publicity these guys seek. Michael Sam was the most annoying gay person I've ever heard about. He was literally trying to coax people into coming out cause he did. Not cause they wanted to. I really could care less about the color of my video game characters, so please grasp at more straws. I mained Jax in every MK he was in except 9, clearly I care about the color of skin.

Gay people want to be treated like everyone else? Correct? As does every minority? Correct? IMO making threads and praising this a character for being gay contradicts that. If you don't like my opinion, that's fine. And if you see a video game character being gay some sort of huge revolution for gay video gamers, then just wow lol.
 

zydrate101

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Cool, I understand it, whatever. On the other hand. Gays/Lesbians always want to be seen as equal yet when things like this happen they are put up on a pedestal. Should we also put up articles because Cassie is straight?
If everyone was treated the same no matter race or sexuality threads like these wouldn't need to be made. We aren't at that stage in this world yet.
why are you so against people of a different race or sexuality being happy they have representation?
 
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