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Also since u have knowledge on games with variations, could u tell us about them and how much switching variations had an effect on matchups and what not?
Also since u have knowledge on games with variations, could u tell us about them and how much switching variations had an effect on matchups and what not?
I hear you, but I think haketh is actually right here. MVC3 and CVS2 are both 3on3 games, so the concept of "matchup" is different and doesn't apply quite the same way. The closest analouges are the anime games that had variation-esqe options in them.
I can get behind this. If ppl actually want it this way then I can handle it.
Well to be fair, I do think that you can say that sticks are a niche in the NRS community. I'll list some top players off the top of my head:
I agree stage should always be random. We don't need "Rooftop" happening for the third time.
I got a ps4 stick I'm chillin
In Arcana they could be a big deal, the biggest one would be it was easy to counterpick Cathy who's a strong character with the Tyr Arcana, Cathy is HUUUUUUUGE, a bit smaller than PTX in TVC for comparison & the Tyr Arcana has a super that creates a small cage that you have to fight in for a limited time & seeing how she's so big she hits the walls of the cage & takes damage easy, even fucks over combos of hers due to size. In Melty their were a good amount of matches that could go from 5-5 depending on character variation *Called moons in Melty* used to pretty bad. Like say Ciel A has a 8-2 MU against Nero B the Ciel player would switch to that variation & the Nero would switch to Nero C to make the matchup slightly less bad for him.
I think most people are fine with both being locked for the winner. I also am fine with winner is allowed to switch variation as well as long as he has to do it FIRST. It could allow for more hype matches and it would be pretty ballsy of the winner to change variations after they won with a different one. The only way I see this getting out of hand is if there is hidden variation select. Has this been confirmed yet?
We cannot allow for Metropolis Rooftop garbage in MKX. But isn't this already fixed with if players don't agree it is random? Or are you worried about the extra time it will add to the tourney with players arguing over the stage? Also how are we going to handle stages like the street from MK9, if there are distracting stages in MKX? Having 2 players agree on a Shao Kahn courtyard stage could speed up the tourney instead of having to re-random if we get a visually distracting stage.
I've said it before. Pig being on pad for Kenshi I think really helped. I believe, even if he trained hardcore on stick, that his spirit charge reactions would be slower, and he would be a worse Kenshi on stick. But I play on stick cuz Dizzy does, and he's cool, so I've got that going for me I guess.
Ah ok that makes sense. If that is the case, then I am more than willing to side with allowing the winner to change variations if the loser changes characters.
Your statement is an opinion which makes it 100% incorrect.
I think it is more a matter of preference. I had learned how to play most fighting games on Arcade Stick so it is what I am comfortable with. I think with games like SF4 there is an advantage to playing on arcade stick. This will likely be an issue for players that play on Hitbox as well.
I would like to hear some opinions from other players that I know also use arcade stick when playing, I realize this might be an irrelevant topic for players that play on pad.
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@Godspeed (also can't find username)[/QUOTE I play capcom games on stick but for NRS games I play on a PS pad so I'm good to go because I enjoy the new ps4 pad.
I am sure it will be like the rule in USF4: Winner can change Ultra if Loser is changing characters, but has to pick ultra first before Loser chooses a new character.In marvel the loser is allowed to change characters and their assists as well. That would not null variations, that would make sure we don't have a counterpick fest (but this would only apply to the characters with more than one good variation and I mean if y'all want counter pick galore then I can handle that)
It's because NRS games actually are designed around the pad. Any game not released in arcades will usually be designed around one. It doesn't make stick inferior, though, and there's some things that stick would be better for (getting a proper EX straight ball for Kano is easier on stick, if I'm not mistaken IAGBs are easier on stick, too. And I find doing back-forward inputs from crouch are easier on stick).
As a person who plays both (more than both), I'd say it doesn't really matter. Never botched a back forward motion on stick, the overlap and leniency as far as inputs go for NRS games is far from soul crushing. Blocking with a button held down on a stick is a little more . . . trying, but you get used to it.
No, winner picks ultra after loser picks his character but before lose picks his ultra. Which isn't all that meaningful for ultras but could be a lot more interesting if there's some rock-paper-scissors between variations.
