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Whitefox

Whitefox

Noob
This is for the video game Mortal Kombat 9 (2011).

Been working on this chart for a long time now and got input from other players to see their side of the story for some of the Matchups. Would love to hear input from other Scorpion mains and see their thoughts on Scorpion.

@Scoot Magee
@Vagrant
@Slips
@luis

Theres other but I can't think of them at the moment.

Baraka: 4-6. (Baraka has decent pressure against scorp, and armor to get in if scorpion tries to turtle, he also has a vortex of his own, just not as effective.)

Cyrax: 3-7 (Scorpions worst MU I feel, one miss hellfire, spear, tele, 50/50 and its over.)

Ermac: 5-5 (Ermac excells against scorp if in the midrange to close area. Ermac does not need to spend meter for really anything except breaker, which can be a deterent from 50/50s. From full screen this could be viewed as a 5-5)

Jax: 4-6 ( Jax has good pressure and good pokes against scorpion, his corner game is godly and his F4 tends to stop almost all of scorpions wakeups

Jade:5-5 ( upclose scorp does well and could possibly make this a 6-4.)

Freddy Krueger: 4-6 (freddy has a vortex of his own, and can outzone scorpion easily. )

Cage: 3-7 (if cage gets in just lose the round)

Kabal: 4-6 (an interesting MU, Kabal wins easily upclose, but from full screen kabal can be afraid to start zoning due to spear or hellfire.)

Kano: 5-5 (Pretty even and after playing Blackbryan offline/online it feels like an even MU)

Kenshi: 4-6 (another interesting Mu, kenshi has to constantly fear hellfire/random spear and EXspear, but if he gets his zone going he can chip away your health fast)

Kitana: 3-7 Impossible to anti air, D1, her 50% damage, no jumping, have fun)

Kung Lao: 4-6 (your best bet is to try and stay away from him and wait for a mistake, punish his tele with d1 tele or or backdash b2)

Liu Kang: 5-5 (Not much to say here really, his damage is not incredible and his zoning is not great against spear/hellfire, makes up for ti with his pressure)

Mileena: 5-5 (Turtling her is really your best bet, you don't want to be near her because of her 50/50s and insane D4 range. You can punish a whiffed tele blades with D1 teleport.)

Nightwolf: 5-5 No comments, never played one.

Noob: 5-5 (Odd MU, noob generally wins full screen but hellfire can make him cautious, upclose it's scorpions game.)

Quan Chi: 5-5 (I hate this MU, he plays similar to scorpion with his 50/50s and standing resets, rune trap is great and meter drain is great. I thought i heard someone say it was a 4-6 but i honestly think thats bullshit)

Raiden: 4-6 (One whiffed hellfire/spear with tele and he's in comboing your face. Gotta play safe here.)

Reptile: 4-6 ( His mid/full screen acid balls and his speed make it an odd MU for scorp. And after playing Tetra and Cossner offline and a few reptiles online it feels 4-6.)

Rain: 5-5 (Rain has good damage and has a ton of armor, decent pressure game and all. It could be a 4-6 but honestly not many people use rain to a super high level)



Sektor: 5-5 (Sektor has good midscreen and corner damage, but has to spend meter, this causes him to really fear a 50/50)

Shang 5-5 (could possible be a 4-6 due to his pressure game, and if he gets you going full screen it can be difficult to do something
since all his specials beat yours full screen)

Sheeva: 6-4 (not much she can do here, your pressure actually beats someones for once and air grab beats her stomp)


Sindel: 5-5 (Crazy mixups and good zoning full screen, not super great upclose but can do some crazy work with scream cancels.)

Skarlet: 4-6 (Armour out the ass and good pressure)

Smoke: 3-7 (Good pressure,reset, and no full screen game against him)

sonya: 3-7 (same as cage pretty much)

stryker: 5-5 Full screen stryker can keep you locked, but one EX spear usually gets you in. Could be argued for a 6-4 here)

sub-zero: 5-5 ( Most even match up in the game Sub wants you in the corner, I want you in the vortex, both must work to get you in their desired outcomes)

6-4s - 1
5-5s - 14
4-6s - 9
3-7s - 5

Someone once told me "Scorpion players fear the vortex just as much as the opponent"
 
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STRYKIE

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Good opinions, my changes:

5-5 Baraka (pressure? Dude, Buzz Aldrin could take another trip to the moon and back before he hits you, just be careful about cornering yourself because his corner game is deceptively dangerous)

2-8 Cyrax (Big punishment is the tip of the iceberg, his bomb setups even make some normally safe stuff a massive risk)

Ermac 5-5 (sometimes I'm emo about the fact that he can punish a lot of gimmicky checks hard, but you kind of have to be fair to Ermac's perspective and acknowledge Scorp can do the same to him lol)

Cage 4-6 (Scorpion's armor actually works very reliably on Cage, the problem is that he still builds too much meter on the inside)

Kabal 3-7 (not impossible to take 4 games out of 10 but spam happy Kabal players make this seem easier than it actually is)

Kenshi 5-5 (you generally have a much easier time trading than you do against Freddy, hell, sometimes the trade glitches out in your favor and gives you a free hellfire lolol)

Liu Kang 4-6: (the offense of most Liu players is predictable, but his lesser known mixup options should not be underestimated)

Kitana 4-6 (my personal 2nd most hated matchup using Scorp behind Cyrax, extremely frustrating to get anything started without meter, but if we're being fair, I don't think Scorp is quite as boned as Sub-Zero is against her)

Mileena 6-4 (Scorpion is one of the very few characters who's pressure tools do NOT whiff on her hitbox and hits like a 10-ton truck on punishment due to Scorpion's hardly scaled AA damage)

Raiden 5-5 (definitely an awkward one to approach if you're not familiar with Raiden, but you've basically gotta let him know that you have no qualms about playing the matchup as lame as he can.)

Nightwolf 6-4: lol tombstone

Shang 5-5:(ground skulls are more manageable than Freddy's spikes, and soul steal is extremely risky without meter due to the morph back exploits)

Stryker 6-4: (I'm genuinely not exaggerating when I say you can hellfire him all day, even if he tries to play up close, you can straight up D1 out of his interruptible strings, lmfao)

Smoke 4-6: (Unlike Cyrax, he doesn't have 3 different ways to stick 2 fingers up at your breaker. His general safety is also annoying but besides having the fastest overhead in the game, the rest of his normals, categorically speaking, aren't particularly impressive.)

I agree with the rest.
 
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Whitefox

Whitefox

Noob
I talked to Tetraspirit at NEC15 and he believed Baraka vs Scorp was indeed a 6-4 in Barakas favor.. I played quiet a bit with him and definitely felt like Baraka was a much stronger character than I had initially thought, as I too had it at 5-5. It could just be me Vs Tetra, but I would like to see what Scoot and the other scorpions feel.

I can see ermac being a 5-5, but yet again he has B2 mixups, f4 shenanigans, and his damage is great for not having to spend meter. Scorpion has his own shenanigans, but most of his come from vortex, which is a punish if you guess wrong.

Most cages know scorpions going to armor with spear, So they just check you constantly with D4 which causes spear to whiff over your head. B3 and F3 catch you a lot trying to start something, and if cage corners you it's practically over.

Mileena can't be a 6-4, she has instant air fireballs and good pressure which scorp can't D1 out of. Scorpion does have one of the best tools to punish her teleports with D1 teleport however. Her D4 also stop pretty much all crossover punches, and she can D4 fireball you safely.

I can see Shang as a 5-5

I can also see Stryker as a 6-4, but I almost never play any strykers except @Mikemetroid , and it's very rare.

I can see 6-4 nightwolf. No EXP against any, don't know a single NW except Big D.
 
STRYKIE

STRYKIE

Are ya' ready for MK11 kids?!
Whitefox said:
I talked to Tetraspirit at NEC15 and he believed Baraka vs Scorp was indeed a 6-4 in Barakas favor.. I played quiet a bit with him and definitely felt like Baraka was a much stronger character than I had initially thought, as I too had it at 5-5. It could just be me Vs Tetra, but I would like to see what Scoot and the other scorpions feel.

I can see ermac being a 5-5, but yet again he has B2 mixups, f4 shenanigans, and his damage is great for not having to spend meter. Scorpion has his own shenanigans, but most of his come from vortex, which is a punish if you guess wrong.

Most cages know scorpions going to armor with spear, So they just check you constantly with D4 which causes spear to whiff over your head. B3 and F3 catch you a lot trying to start something, and if cage corners you it's practically over.

Mileena can't be a 6-4, she has instant air fireballs and good pressure which scorp can't D1 out of. Scorpion does have one of the best tools to punish her teleports with D1 teleport however. Her D4 also stop pretty much all crossover punches, and she can D4 fireball you safely.

I can see Shang as a 5-5

I can also see Stryker as a 6-4, but I almost never play any strykers except @Mikemetroid , and it's very rare.

I can see 6-4 nightwolf. No EXP against any, don't know a single NW except Big D.
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It's easy to have a prisoner of the moment reaction to Baraka, trust me, there was an era where I thought he beats Scorp too lol. But then you look at his frame data and wonder why you get hit by a lot of his stuff.

You can jump kick air throw Mileena if she starts getting D4 happy. Never really seen a Mileena rely on air sais but if they do that's pretty much a free EX tele check. If it hits, you can follow up into 40% into vortex setup, if it's blocked you're still at +10, even if it's scouted and punished the damage is nothing lose sleep over.

Cage's corner game is annoying but hardly on par with Jax, Kenshi or Cyrax. If he's reading armor then he should be ducking and punishing accordingly anyway, d4 will still be blown up by EX takedown.

Just my outlook anyway, you don't have to agree with me.
 
Whitefox

Whitefox

Noob
What do you think of cage Mike.

Exact same time posting, lol

I believe @crosstalk once said to me it was 3-7 in cage's favor. However Crosstalk has been mysteriously missing for some time now, any news of were he is?
 
GrandMasterson

GrandMasterson

The Netherrealm beckons
Scorp/Sonya is probably an 8-2. I'd much rather fight Cage than Sonya any day, at least I have a chance to AA Cage and can punish a blocked nut punch and that's a 7-3.
 
Vagrant

Vagrant

Noob
Scorpion beats noob imo. Grossly outdamages him and the consequence of scorpion guessing wrong on the vortex isn't nearly as bad as if noob guesses wrong.

Scorp vs Smoke. Dude I watched Tommy and Slips play for days, and I think this matchup could be 8-2. 7-3 is fine though.
Cage is probably 4-6
Kenshi is even imo.
Scorp definitely beats NW.
I won't dispute your sektor number but I wouldn't be surprised if Sektor actually wins

I actually think Scorpion beats Mileena, But I never ran it with Fox or any sort of high level mileena.

Your "oh shit" matchups are: Kit, Smoke, Cyrax, Sonya,
 
Mikemetroid

Mikemetroid

Who hired this guy, WTF?
@STRYKIE @Whitefox 6-4. Scorpion can definitely win this matchup but shouldn't play a close up game. It's all about being tricky and getting cage to mess up.

Cage however will punish Scorpion very very hard if he messes up.
 
Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Whitefox said:
This is for the video game Mortal Kombat 9 (2011).

Freddy Krueger: 4-6 (freddy has a vortex of his own, and can outzone scorpion easily. )
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If i'm not mistaken, scorpion can trade with freddy's projectiles with hellfire, and get a second free hellfire. That means freddie has to rely on claw, which is risky because if scorpion takes to the air he can tp it and go for pressure and a mixup, which doesn't have to be unsafe you can go for f4takedown and f3, or 2 1+2. Then you start talking footsie tools and scorpion is kind of better in that respect, but Freddie has a better risk reward in terms of damage. Just throwing out knowledge not numbers
 
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Peckapowa

Peckapowa

Noob
Whitefox said:
I talked to Tetraspirit at NEC15 and he believed Baraka vs Scorp was indeed a 6-4 in Barakas favor.. I played quiet a bit with him and definitely felt like Baraka was a much stronger character than I had initially thought, as I too had it at 5-5. It could just be me Vs Tetra, but I would like to see what Scoot and the other scorpions feel.
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The key to baraka is max distance blade charge, i don't think scorpion has an answer except for anticipating it with spear, baraka should be able to work his spacing game pretty easily and frustrate scorpion.
 
Whitefox

Whitefox

Noob
Peckapowa said:
The key to baraka is max distance blade charge, i don't think scorpion has an answer except for anticipating it with spear, baraka should be able to work his spacing game pretty easily and frustrate scorpion.
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What is your standing on this mu then?


Also vagrant I have played a few sektors offline including @SwiftTomHanks and the mu felt relatively even.

Honestly sektor is the character I respect the most out of the entire game.
 
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