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A Plea to TYMers

Zoidberg747

My blades will find your heart
Alright so I have been keeping this in for like the past couple weeks but this site has become near unbearable to read and I just cannot take it anymore. You may not like everything that I have to say but frankly, I really dont care and hope that some of you may take what I say seriously as it pertains to growing the community.

This community has become completely split in 50 different ways. Everyone is at each others throats all the time and it is annoying as fuck to read. Not to mention both sides have misinformation about the other and both end up looking dumb. I wanted to try and level with some of the sides of these arguments from an unbiased(well...kinda) perspective.

First thing is this whole MK vs. IGAU debate. Two years ago this site was flooded with people saying how MK doesnt get its fair shake and people hating on it is the reason it doesnt grow. And then these same people look at Injustice, and do THE EXACT SAME THING THAT PEOPLE DID TO MK. Do you even realize how hypocritical that makes us look? LBSH, MK had some fucked up shit in it. Sure it was fun and overall it was a great game, but saying it was perfect is delusional. These people say things like "Injustice is scrubby, there is no footsies, it takes no fundamentals etc.". Newsflash, every fighting game takes fundamentals and every fighting game has footsies. Saying shit like that just makes our community look like it has no idea what it is talking about. As for the game being scrubby, that is only because this community is too busy bitching to figure stuff out. For every 1 thread trying to find useful tech there is 10 bashing the game. I personally am going to be putting out an interactable guide in the next few days and I would love to see more stuff along those lines. There are other people like Under_The_Mayo putting out useful tech like crazy and that is great. But instead of sitting waiting for others to post it, YOU need to do some of the work. If something keeps beating you, go into training and find a way around it, simple. I know IGAU is not perfect, but neither was MK. Like it or not, this site is partly injustice based and that is not going to change.

Stop trashing IGAU and trying to get people to come back to MK. Frankly I have considered not entering MK9 anymore because I am embarrassed to be part of a community that acts so childishly. You dont have to like IGAU, but you dont have to trash it either. Instead of trashing IGAU, try and go to the IGAU community and say "Yo NRS also made MK, you may have heard bad things but it actually is really fun. You should try it out". This would work 10 times better than saying "You all have no fundamentals, you should play MK". No one is going to give you a shot if your asses to them, but they might if your cool about it. I love MK too and want to see it continue to flourish, but to do that your going to have to drop the jealousy that TYM isnt just MK anymore. We have to come together with the IGAU community and support both games to help them both grow.

On the other side of the coin, some of the IGAU people need to realize that this site is still an MK site. It is extremely disrespectful to sign up on here and go back trashing what essentially brought this site to life. This site is not just an IGAU site, it is still an MK site and people need to respect that. MK may have had its faults but it definitely took skill to win. It had footsies just like IGAU does. Yeah it was imbalanced but so is IGAU, doesnt stop anyone from playing it. MK had some extremely lopsided matchups, but that just made it more fun to overcome them. I am not here to say play MK, if you dont want to no one is forcing you. My point is you should be more civil to the community that created this site in the first place.

I was going to go off on some other points but I am tired of typing so ill sum them up. Console wars are for three year olds, FC champ did the MK v. Capcom thing for hype and you look stupid for taking it seriously, and interactables are staying whether you all like it or not.

I just want to end saying that I love this site. I have been on here for two years and will continue to come back. I just want to see it come together so I dont have to keep seeing these pointless arguments. You dont have to play both games, or even like them, but you can still be civil and mature about it.

TL DR:
Stop being assholes, grow the fuck up
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
Well I hope you felt better getting that off your chest but nothing will honestly change. If it's any consolation, don't let people separate the MK community from every other major FG community. The SF, Tekken, MvC, MK ALL complain and bitch and moan when people don't get their way. It's mostly just new school gamers in general who want things the easy way and cannot adapt to situations. Look at results threads for tourneys, it's no different. It used to be "good job to the placers". Now it's "herp a derr I hate top tiers wahhhh" for pages and pages. Don't let people get to you is my best advice, just enjoy the game
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
What I don't understand is, the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. If people hate IGAU so much, why do they continue to play it?

When I was a kid, I shaved my own head and looked retarded. As a kid, I learned the basic concept of "if something sucks don't do it again". So why do you idiots keep shaving your head over and over? I just don't understand, help an old school gamer like me get it cause I really don't
 

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
Nah, Injustice is a party game, made for casual players who just want to throw shit and jump around.
I like injustice it's got neat characters and shit blows up but I have to agree, I lose to good players, that's fair but I lose to garbage players too because throwing out specials and interactibles with top tier characters still beats playing strategically with low tier people.
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
I like injustice it's got neat characters and shit blows up but I have to agree, I lose to good players, that's fair but I lose to garbage players too because throwing out specials and interactibles with top tier characters still beats playing strategically with low tier people.
As opposed to people doing JFLS w/Jin in Tekken 4?

Might be a generational gap here let me try another example.......Vanilla Sagat in SF4? Scrubs used him and beat better players ALL the time. Hi, welcome to FGs:)
 

MorbidAltruism

Get over here!
I mostly agree. I honestly don't see the problem though. As far as I am concerned we are both sharing this site. I mean... I play both... but I prefer MK. If someone starts bashing it... for the most part I am going to defend it. I feel obligated to as a long time MK fan. I never argue with anyone... I just try to play the preference card. It is such an easy card. :p
 

Lumpymoomilk

Online Punching Bag
As opposed to people doing JFLS w/Jin in Tekken 4?

Might be a generational gap here let me try another example.......Vanilla Sagat in SF4? Scrubs used him and beat better players ALL the time. Hi, welcome to FGs:)
I mained Sheeva in MK9, I could hold my own against decent people in 8-2 matches against Kung Lao's, Kabal's, Sonya's. I play Lobo in this and get creamed by scrubby scorpions superman's and deathstrokes. I've been playing fighting games more seriously since Tekken 3. There are some gaps in there, but this game sometimes is total horseshit. Hopefully some patches even things out.
 
everytime i read charmangler's posts, i do it in Newman's voice. some hilarious shit man.

anyway, i can agree with most of the OP. except FChamp didn't do it for hype, he actually meant it. of course, he was wrong and was set free. stay free FChamp.

eventually all of the annoying shit on the forums will die down. eventually.
 

RWDY Nori

Where is crossplay?
I mained Sheeva in MK9, I could hold my own against decent people in 8-2 matches against Kung Lao's, Kabal's, Sonya's. I play Lobo in this and get creamed by scrubby scorpions superman's and deathstrokes. I've been playing fighting games more seriously since Tekken 3. There are some gaps in there, but this game sometimes is total horseshit. Hopefully some patches even things out.
In IGAU, there are ZERO 8-2 matchups so I don't know how this compares to MK. You realize you are still in the learning curve of the game, it's only been out barely 2 months right?