PND_Ketchup
"More deadly than the dawn"
MB overhead flip no longer launches. MB claw swipe no longer has armour. MB acid puddle now stops running though.don't know about any changes to him as of yet
MB overhead flip no longer launches. MB claw swipe no longer has armour. MB acid puddle now stops running though.don't know about any changes to him as of yet
They are scared that the game wouldn't see another update because of the tendency of NRS to turn high potential games into abandonware in sight of the next title.I feel like this thread needs to be made because way often than not, we have players or individuals claim a character has been nerfed to "useless", "shit", "completely unviable", and much more being prematurely thrown around each update. It's to the point where it's starting to become a trend with each patch.
We've seen it happen with Raiden, Erron Black, Sub-Zero, Quan Chi, Shinnok, Tanya, Cassie Cage, Triborg, Scorpion, Predator, Tremor, etc. etc. where almost all of these characters at one point were called "dead" and claimed to have no use in the game after their "butchering".
Sure some varations of these characters may have been over normalized by a bit, but it's never been the case in MKX where a character from the roster has all of a sudden become a training dummy and has no place in the game.
Many of the Mileena and Alien players panicking on social media claiming that their character may now be "ruined" need to take a moment and realize that... It's never really happened before, and there's about a 1% chance it happens in the next big update hitting. Especially with a patch that has had seven months in the works.
TL;DR - Less claims and outrage of characters now being "shit" because of nerfs. The character that you think may become nerfed to "shit" in the upcoming patch will most likely still be good and have their uses.
its ok, you can swear on the internetNERFED TO "SH*T"
FYI, TYM admins have stressed before not to use foul language in thread titles.its ok, you can swear on the internet
Everybody is counting out the possibility that the mb claw swipe has no armor only when he's over the acid puddle?MB overhead flip no longer launches. MB claw swipe no longer has armour. MB acid puddle now stops running though.
Gotta disagree with you on Ethereal and meter. Ethereal was already Meter reliant as is. The point I believe Skedar was making, was that if you Revesal EX Fade to escape pressure/bait whiffs/etc, you will now be spending another for MB Roll as a punish. 2 bars for one defensive decision. (Granted it may JUST be Anti-Air Rolls that require the MB, but for now this is what we were given.) Yes EX Fade is amazing, but unless you're strictly talking about hitconfirms, using it as a counter tool will cost a ton.Ethereal being meter hungry is fine. Some characters are balanced by being very meter reliant. If Ethereal could build meter super easy and always have access to a bar, then she would be insane because of how ridiculous and potent EX Fade is as a move. She does a decent job building meter against some characters with the use of her zoning, fade keep away, and strings. EX Fade is such a strong move and shuts down some characters extremely well. It's also one of the best wake-ups in the game. Watch Saltface use her to get an idea, Ethereal is really good.
Characters should feel like they're missing something in an area or have a weakness. They're usually a fairly balanced character in most cases. (depending on the game's meta) Characters that don't feel like they're missing anything big and have every tool you could want are usually the messy top tier characters that are sometimes a mistake.
o yeh thats right Eddy Wang was telling me he got infracted for it the other week Lmao damnFYI, TYM admins have stressed before not to use foul language in thread titles.
So the issue here is Ethereal players are bothered by the fact that they're using probably the most ridiculous wake-up or invincible move to escape nearly anything AND not getting compensated simultaneously with a full combo of their choice?Gotta disagree with you on Ethereal and meter. Ethereal was already Meter reliant as is. The point I believe Skedar was making, was that if you Revesal EX Fade to escape pressure/bait whiffs/etc, you will now be spending another for MB Roll as a punish. 2 bars for one defensive decision. (Granted it may JUST be Anti-Air Rolls that require the MB, but for now this is what we were given.) Yes EX Fade is amazing, but unless you're strictly talking about hitconfirms, using it as a counter tool will cost a ton.
The issue is, Piercing is the variation everyone wants nerfed. So to them, Ethereal is expendable. You can't play Ethereal effectively without bar since her whole variation is one move. Piercing, however, will probably not notice much difference in playstyle except for not having breaker so often.
That would be a very odd and random circumstance to lose armour.Everybody is counting out the possibility that the mb claw swipe has no armor only when he's over the acid puddle?
I'm aware that EX Fade is most definitely an S-Tier tool. Even made a vid on it. I just feel like it plays out much different in game than it sounds on paper. (Assuming again, that ground hitting Roll requires meter to launch). The placing of EX Fade and its potential conversions are the key behind playing it.So the issue here is Ethereal players are bothered by the fact that they're using probably the most ridiculous wake-up or invincible move to escape nearly anything AND not getting compensated simultaneously with a full combo of their choice?
Tools as powerful as these should not be around like candy on Halloween. Having to use extra resource like two bars to become Goku for a split second to blast through nearly anything and get a whiff punish combo afterwards seems reasonable to me.
well at least he still has Force ball combos to launch. not like he has no ways to launch including F412 in all variations for meterless and maybe in nimble for high damage.MB overhead flip no longer launches. MB claw swipe no longer has armour. MB acid puddle now stops running though.
Maybe he also takes dmg standing there.That would be a very odd and random circumstance to lose armour.
regular spit also seems to have faster recovery.MB overhead flip no longer launches. MB claw swipe no longer has armour. MB acid puddle now stops running though.
May be it is safe on block now?regular spit also seems to have faster recovery.