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AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
Let's cut the bullshit TYM.

There is so much miss information going around it makes me sick. The ideas of run cancels is specifically what I'm talking about. Can you name all the characters with them?

If you listed predator on your list you are dead wrong. Can we talk about predator cancels? I must admit I didn't know this until last night but when I figured it out I almost fell over. I was under the impression that HQT had the same run cancels as everyone else. I thought Burger King had godlike execution but then I tried it myself.

There is no run cancel. He can just dash out of it and be + frames. When a character like Kang dashes out he actually dashes and loses frames. The simplicity of this baffles me. Try it for yourself. Practice Liu Kang f44 fbrc f44 and then go practice predator 32 dash cancel 122. Easy mode.

HQT has pre patch Tanya teleport cancel pressure but easier and with more plus frames.

Next up is Jax. His cancels although they are true run cancels, they are soooooo easy. I think it's the DB motion but it doesn't take a hit box to do these 100% of the time. I figured it out in 5 minutes and haven't messed up yet everyday I practice Kang f44 fbrc f44 and am inconsistent.

A list cage has true run cancels that are difficult however off his "dizzy knee" f3, he can just easily rc out while holding 4 to hit confirm or be + frames. I hope this one was known already but FYI just the same. Respect to those that can do them consistently although I have seen dizzy mess them up time to time.



Anyways...my point is this, don't assume one thing equals another. Fbrc for Kang are not fbrc for predator. Some high execution characters like cage and devorah have them but most have something very different with totally different inputs.

End rant. #buffkang&tanya&nightwing

MKX cancels tier list

hardest to easiest

(Harder than they should be)
Devorah brood mother
Kang Dragon fire
Tremor
Cage a list

(Right where they should be)
Jacqui high tech
Raiden thunder God
Tanya kobu jutsu (only cause it got nerfed)

(Way too easy)
Devorah swarm queen
Scorp hell fire
Predator hqt
Ferra/torr ruthless
Erron Black marksman
Jax heavy weapons


Tell me if I missed something
 
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Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
I play Swarm Queen, Dragons Fire, A-list and honestly I feel like Liu's can be trickier at times. But I played the other two before. DF and Liu's are pretty equal. Try doing F2~SKRC~F2. THAT takes some serious execution, I can't even do it and keep it a true blockstring.

A-list and Dragons Fire is pretty much the same except anything after F213~fbrc is easy more lol.
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
I play Swarm Queen, Dragons Fire, A-list and honestly I feel like Liu's can be trickier at times. But I played the other two before. DF and Liu's are pretty equal. Try doing F2~SKRC~F2. THAT takes some serious execution, I can't even do it and keep it a true blockstring.

A-list and Dragons Fire is pretty much the same except anything after F213~fbrc is easy more lol.
I agree about some of a list cancels but that f3 for space control is an easy cheesy one.

F213 fbrc is great but I have to mix you up. Try doing f213 into f4 consistently with no gap. On hit it knocks them away and I'm back at the beginning. People are dumb
 

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
I agree about some of a list cancels but that f3 for space control is an easy cheesy one.

F213 fbrc is great but I have to mix you up. Try doing f213 into f4 consistently with no gap. On hit it knocks them away and I'm back at the beginning. People are dumb
Can't argue that, it a few steps short of being Cassie's B1 range.

Oh I know, it sucks but if somebodies doing that all the time I just do 21 fbrc and they don't expect it then they're reluctant to even try taking the hit or just do F213~Flying kick or Bycycle kick. F213~fbrc~F4 is easy man, F4 and F2 are both 10 frames :p
 

AK L0rdoftheFLY

I hatelove this game
Can't argue that, it a few steps short of being Cassie's B1 range.

Oh I know, it sucks but if somebodies doing that all the time I just do 21 fbrc and they don't expect it then they're reluctant to even try taking the hit or just do F213~Flying kick or Bycycle kick. F213~fbrc~F4 is easy man, F4 and F2 are both 10 frames :p
Don't up play execution dude. Sliding your thumb over the other buttons from 1 to 4 makes me late on the rc. I also hit other buttons sometimes. It's the button mapping that makes it tough not the frames.
 

Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
So do you want them to be as hard as Liu or D'Vorah or do you want them all to be easy?

I'm really asking.
 

Doombawkz

Trust me, I'm a doctor
Your cancels are all shit compared to PnG run cancels.
Lemme get this nice 50/50 hit-confirmable 20%-40% meterless combo that also gives me a damage buff and leaves me + even if I fuck up or you guess right. d.d.3 f.f.rb with a 34 frame window to do it. Fuck hard dash/run cancels, if it takes more than 2 directions and 2 buttons you're working too hard.

Even Indecisive couldn't choke hard enough to mess it up.
Even Pantychrist could do it.
Hell, Decay could take his hands off of the controller and just flex and eat Jerky with TTG (aka flipkev) and the PnG would leave him at enough + frames to draw a sketch of the opponent in blockstun and post it to TYM.

Crispy cancels? Fuck that, these cancels are soft as Sonicfox's hat.
 
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Rude

You will serve me in The Netherrealm
Also, what about Marksman rifle cancels or lightning cancels in combos for Raiden? Hard? Easy? Should be harder?
 

Scott The Scot

Where there is smoke, there is cancer.
Don't up play execution dude. Sliding your thumb over the other buttons from 1 to 4 makes me late on the rc. I also hit other buttons sometimes. It's the button mapping that makes it tough not the frames.
That's a fair point I guess. Wouldn't you just lift your thumb from 1 to 4 during the after FF+BLK of the fbrc? That seems like the most efficient way to do it.
 

Akromaniac27

Ready to lose your head?
I wish my unsafe, high hitting projectiles didn't have a BF motion and be just as braindead easy like Kitana's IAF....literally (game mechanic) can't even convert off of them

#datskillgap
 
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ChatterBox

Searching for an alt.
Put it in a podcast, then I'll listen. Seriously, I'm so lonely without the podcasts.


Brood mother has hardest cancels, and I've tried all of them in the game I hope.