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WHY IS STANDING 3 A MID? HE STOMPS ON YOUR FOOT.
YOUR FOOT, THE LOWEST PART OF YOUR BODY.
YOUR FOOT, THE LOWEST PART OF YOUR BODY.
Because NightwolfWHY IS STANDING 3 A MID? HE STOMPS ON YOUR FOOT.
YOUR FOOT, THE LOWEST PART OF YOUR BODY.
He's meant to be a keep away character, I don't see how a cancellable db1 would fit in his play style and what would be his options afterwards? he already can get a +frame blockstring off of an ex hellspark. With your proposed change, you would turn necromancer into more of an upclose pressure character and he doesn't have the right toolset for it.I have been thinking lately, does Necromancer need to have anymore adjustments made to him? If his DB+1 was cancel-able, it would surely give Necromancer the ability to pressure his opponents. Playing with Necromancer recently though he seems pretty solid, just get some hate for zoning the opponent. Additionally, it would greatly help his counter zoning game by decreasing the Start-Up and Recovery frames on his Amulet Strike (this would also be affecting Impostor though, which seems like the most balanced variation).
Oh no, I mean cancel it from a distance in order to trick the opponent into either running in and you can punish, or simply have the constant threat on their mind.He's meant to be a keep away character, I don't see how a cancellable db1 would fit in his play style and what would be his options afterwards? he already can get a +frame blockstring off of an ex hellspark. With your proposed change, you would turn necromancer into more of an upclose pressure character and he doesn't have the right toolset for it.
if any adjustments are to be made, a better tracking on bf2 would suffice and maybe a little damage buff on his ex grab
Yes the skeleton hands need to be removed and replaced with a skull helmetI have been thinking lately, does Necromancer need to have anymore adjustments made to him? If his DB+1 was cancel-able, it would surely give Necromancer the ability to pressure his opponents. Playing with Necromancer recently though he seems pretty solid, just get some hate for zoning the opponent. Additionally, it would greatly help his counter zoning game by decreasing the Start-Up and Recovery frames on his Amulet Strike (this would also be affecting Impostor though, which seems like the most balanced variation).
Edit: I mean cancel-able from a distance, in order to trick the opponent into thinking you will use DB+1, and then have them run in or delay wake-up, which you can react to appropriately.
Not gonna lie, them skull hands look terrible. Some other sort of indication would be great for his Necromancer designYes the skeleton hands need to be removed and replaced with a skull helmet
I know right!!!!!!!!!Not gonna lie, them skull hands look terrible. Some other sort of indication would be great for his Necromancer design
Man I wish Necro was as good as you're making it sound lol. I just wish Flick was faster so it's actually more useful in zoning wars and the tracking issues wouldn't be as much of a problem. You'd probably also be able to make things safer by ending your strings in Flick which would be great because a lot of his strings are unsafe as it is, he'd build meter which he needs for combos and it'd give his up close game a new interesting element. Even then you still have DF4 being super minus on block (why?!) which if you try and zone with gives them a whole 30 frames to advance if you do DF4 into another DF4 to catch runs. Unfortunately noone decent that I've played ever gets hit by hand because they just roll everythingOkay so I've been using this character for a while and I love Necromancer. The zoning tools combined with Hell Sparks make for an interesting keep away game and the unblockable hand is always nice to throw out - especially with @KHAOTIC True Grave 's setup (see his thread if you don't know, gotta give credit where it's due). The only thing in my head: should they remove the tracking from flick and make it so that the player chooses where on screen it will appear?
I play off of the oki game. I try to end everything in df4 and then I approach while they're on the ground and go for a mix-up. Or, honestly, I hit them with df4 and throw out the hand as they slump to the ground. 9/10 times this will work the first time you do itMan I wish Necro was as good as you're making it sound lol. I just wish Flick was faster so it's actually more useful in zoning wars and the tracking issues wouldn't be as much of a problem. You'd probably also be able to make things safer by ending your strings in Flick which would be great because a lot of his strings are unsafe as it is, he'd build meter which he needs for combos and it'd give his up close game a new interesting element. Even then you still have DF4 being super minus on block (why?!) which if you try and zone with gives them a whole 30 frames to advance if you do DF4 into another DF4 to catch runs. Unfortunately noone decent that I've played ever gets hit by hand because they just roll everything
I end everything in 4~DF4 as well since it's optimal and leaves you with good positioning but it doesn't make his zoning any better People let you get away with 58 frame hands?!I play off of the oki game. I try to end everything in df4 and then I approach while they're on the ground and go for a mix-up. Or, honestly, I hit them with df4 and throw out the hand as they slump to the ground. 9/10 times this will work the first time you do it
that's what i did with pre-patch necro. -3 flick never forgetYou'd probably also be able to make things safer by ending your strings in Flick which would be great because a lot of his strings are unsafe as it is, he'd build meter which he needs for combos and it'd give his up close game a new interesting element.
I land 2-4 squishes a matchI end everything in 4~DF4 as well since it's optimal and leaves you with good positioning but it doesn't make his zoning any better People let you get away with 58 frame hands?!
Lol it was -4 and I explained nothing cancelled into Flick was safe because everything had a gapthat's what i did with pre-patch necro. -3 flick never forget
WHA?! Dude you need to tell your opponents to tech roll lol.I land 2-4 squishes a match
Can't you move the squash forwards? Like with Goro's stomp?Lol it was -4 and I explained nothing cancelled into Flick was safe because everything had a gap
WHA?! Dude you need to tell your opponents to tech roll lol.
They can't that's what I'm saying! Say you land a df4 full screen - a pro will usually block in case you throw out another zoning tool. That's when you hit them with the first squish! Then if you use any sort of set-up in order to throw out the ex squish, that's 2. Then I mean you can throw them out after any ol df4. If they start running on wake-up then you keep hitting them with df4 or Hell Sparks. It's a full screen mind game man it's so goodLol it was -4 and I explained nothing cancelled into Flick was safe because everything had a gap
WHA?! Dude you need to tell your opponents to tech roll lol.
112 is -7, f22 is -8, f4 is -7 if you were playing against say a cassie or a lao you're screwed either way. for other characters you could, like, not cancel into flick.Lol it was -4 and I explained nothing cancelled into Flick was safe because everything had a gap
WHA?! Dude you need to tell your opponents to tech roll lol.
Full screen command grabs? Hell no.Why would it be OP?
Like any grab, you could armor it, backdash it, jump it, etc.
Close, Mid, and Far flicks would cover specific regions of the screen and allow for more consistency in hitting the target.
It would just require a read to use.
Especially if you can interrupt strings canceled into Summon Fiend, making it a grab would improve his mix up ability, while making those mix ups escapable.
Yeah...uh...no.I'm still super serious about Summon Fiend as a grab. Make it duckable, backdashable, armorable, and vulnerable to jumps and it would be balanced.
Make it happen, NRS.